What If...?

Chuck Swindoll recognizes a depth in Steve which has made him an effective pastor who reaches people. His own loss has freed him from the need to have the answers for others' pain.

Experiencing the crushing of your soul changes the lens through which you view life. Steve describes some ways he views things differently now, especially with his younger daughters.

For the first two years of Payton's life, Steve and his wife, Melanie, chased the right diagnosis for her. But then their focus changed, as he describes in this tender video segment.

Steve Fischer, Pastor of Biblical Counseling, tells the story about how his daughter Payton's illnesses and life struggles affected him and his wife.

Chuck Swindoll introduces his daughter, Colleen, and Steve Fischer. He explains how their discussions of the heartaches they have faced match the themes covered in the What If . . . ? series.